Dave
Wnuck wrote about a Possible Hybrid Between a Half Eagle and a Bust Quarter on an 1811
Contemporary Counterfeit 1811 $5:
Hi JRCS
Members:
I have
an intriguing contemporary counterfeit 1811 $5 gold coin in my
collection. I have had it for a while, but I have never seen another
specimen in my 20+ years of collecting contemporary counterfeits.
So – I
thought I would ask the question of the membership: Does anyone else have an
example of this?
The most interesting aspect of this item is:
the design seems to be a hybrid between an 1811 $5 and a Bust Quarter of the
1815-28 type. Most obvious is the eagle on the reverse. The eagle’s
wingtips point downward on both this specimen and on bust quarters, but the
wingtips point toward the sky on genuine half eagles of the period. Yet
the denomination of “5 D.” and the gold wash still clinging to the specimen
clearly show what denomination the counterfeiter was aiming for.
Here
are the specs on this coin:
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1811
contemporary counterfeit US Half Eagle.
Struck
in copper with crude false dies. Gold washed, with traces of gold still
visible.
6.11
grams (compared with 8.75 grams for a genuine specimen)
26.5 mm
diameter (compared with 25 mm for a genuine specimen)
Reeded
edge.
Rings
like a bell.
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I would
be interested to hear any and all thoughts and observations on this “coin”.
Sincerely,
Dave
Wnuck
Editor's note: Click on the image below to view a larger version of Dave's coin:
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Dick Kurtz wrote:
I was fortunate to win a copy (so marked on the reverse) of
a Birch Cent at the JRCS meeting at the January 2012 FUN
show. Does anyone who attended that meeting know who made it? Copy or not, it's
a neat piece to own.
Dick Kurtz #049
Dick Kurtz #049
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Van Walworth wrote:
I read with interest Winston's report of his 1825 JR-4 obverse cud find...
and would love to see a photo of the 1834 JR-4 reverse full cud example he
discovered... Thx... Van
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Nathan Markowitz wrote about the upcoming EAC-JRCS meeting
in Buffalo, NY:
This is the LAST CALL for anyone who wishes to share their
enthusiasm and knowledge about early federal silver with fellow collectors of
both the silver and copper type at the May 3-6 EAC/JRCS show. The talks will be given Friday May 5 and
Saturday May 6. If you plan to attend
please consider sharing your passion for early silver with like-minded
collectors. I can be reached at cascades1787 (at) yahoo.com