Sunday, April 10, 2011

JR Newsletter: 10 April 2011 (31)

Winston Zack wrote:

In response to Alan Bricker's comments on my 1802 "cud" dime.  Thank you very much for responding about this coin and providing your insight and background on it.  I do not recall who the dealer was or where the dealer of the coin was from when I purchased this coin at the January 2011 FUN show.  The coin was labeled as an 1803 when I purchased it, not an 1807, and may have changed hands in that time, or the dealer just did not believe you.  Nevertheless, it is most certainly an 1802 JR-2.  And it seems that even though you deemed it not a Cud, you still kept the coin on your mind up until now!  I was hoping you could add some more insight into why you thought this coin may have been "damaged or altered sometime after minting"?  I am by no means criticizing your assessment, I would just like to get a more specific explanation of how this raised portion on the coin on the obverse from 4-6 o'clock formed. I certainly thought PMD (post mint damage) was a possibility, but no method I know of could have created the peculiar shape and size of the area in question (the closest I came up with was a soldered attachment site for jewelry, but I would also expect discoloration and rougher surfaces on that flat "cud" spot).
I am sure you are aware that Cuds did form in the relative area in question.  The 1803 JR-3 forms a Cud below the Bust covering more than half the date.  But the most closely resembling Cud to this 1802 Dime is the 1797 JR-1, which forms a massive obverse Cud obliterating the date and passing through the bottom of Liberty's bust.  I'm just saying that Cuds forming in this area are not unusual and we should not dismiss this possibility based on where other Cuds have formed.
A further update: I am having Jim Matthews inspect the coin and he will likely respond here with his assessment.
Winston Zack
Steve Herrman wrote:

Auction Prices Realized for Choice About Uncirculated to Choice Mint State Capped Bust Half Dollars, April 2011 Revision, Number 4;  8.5" x 11" format, 26 pages + cover (unbound), $12.50 postpaid to JRCS members

This report lists prices realized for NGC AU58 to MS64 and PCGS AU55 to MS64 Capped Bust half dollars for ALL die varieties 1807-1836 for auctions held during the past two years, April 2009 through March 2011.  The April 2011 revision contains 1,509 auction records.

Please contact Steve Herrman via email at Herrman102 (at) to request a copy.  Copies shall be mailed with an invoice enclosed.

$2.50 will be donated to the John Reich Collectors Society for each copy sold.

 Steve Herrman
Brad Karoleff wrote:

Anyone looking for a roommate for the Central States Show in Chicago at the end of April?  I have a room at the host hotel for Thursday through Saturday nights and would like to split expenses with someone.  If you are interested please let me know by email at bkaroleff (at)  Thanks!
Brad Karoleff

Rick A. wrote:
Now that the new 'Browning Quarter Book' is out I, and I believe other members, would be interested in a comparison with Steve Tompkins "Early US Quarters 1796-1838". What are the major differences? If one was interested in Bust coinage in general; dimes, quarters and halves, which one might be of more interest? They both sound/appear to be very interesting and the writers of both deserve congratulations and our gratitude in promoting early American Bust coinage; in this case quarters. If you could only buy one, which would you prefer and why? I don't mean to start a debate, but am interested in knowing what the differences might be since my first interest is in bust dimes. I do acquire small size quarters by variety occasionally and early, up to 1824, bust halves but I would like to add one of these books for added reference.
2011 EAC Convention Updates:

Final call for hotel registration at Portland Doubletree is April 11.  I will see if we are able to get an extension if rooms are still available.

Friday Dinner; Please send me your entree choice and $50 to cover the dinner.  We will have a magician performing at the close of the dinner and before the keynote speech....should be entertaining for attendees of all ages (no charge to attend the magician's show).

Happenings coins:  Please remember to bring your examples; or send them with a trusted friend if you cannot attend.

Finally, I suggest you sit in an "A" seat (left hand side of the plane if facing forward) as the views of Mt. Hood ... weather-permitting … are quite stunning on approach to PDX